Talk:Mormon prophet

Definition of a prophet?

Are we defining our terms correctly? A prophet is not an office in the priesthood, but something else: "for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." (Revelation 19:10).

Every time Joseph Smith was asked if he was a prophet, he always cited this verse to prove his calling:

• "No man is a minister of Jesus Christ without being a Prophet. No man can be a minister of Jesus Christ except he has the testimony of Jesus; and this is the spirit of prophecy." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.160)

• "If any person should ask me if I were a prophet, I should not deny it, as that would give me the lie; for, according to John, the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.269)

• "These things are revealed in the most holy places in a Temple prepared for that purpose. Many of the sects cry out, "Oh, I have the testimony of Jesus; I have the spirit of God; but away with Joe Smith; he says he is a prophet; but there are to be no prophets or revelators in the last days." Stop, sir! The Revelator says that the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy; so by your own mouth you are condemned." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.312).

• "Last Monday morning certain men came to me and said: "Brother Joseph, Hyrum is no prophet—he can't lead the church; you must lead the church. If you resign, all things will go wrong; you must not resign; if you do the church will be scattered." I felt curious and said: "Have we not learned the Priesthood after the order of Melchizedek, which includes both Prophets, Priests and Kings: see Rev. 1 Chap., 6th v., and I will advance your Prophet to a Priest, and then to a King—not to the Kingdoms of this earth, but of the Most High God. See Rev. 5 Chap., 10th v.—'Thou hast made us unto our God, Kings and Priests, and we shall reign on the earth.'" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.318).

We really have two definitions here: one is the presiding high pries, the other is any member whatsoever who has a testimony of Christ. If you reread the last quote carefully, we move from prophets (that is, normal memebers with testimonies), then to priests (that is, enter into the Order of the Priesthood D&C 131:2), and then exaltation, or kingship, (Words of Joseph Smith, 336). One definition is institutional; the other very personal.