https://www.mormonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Urim_and_Thummim&feed=atom&action=history Urim and Thummim - Revision history 2024-03-29T05:41:16Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.29.1 https://www.mormonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Urim_and_Thummim&diff=76141&oldid=prev Phicken at 21:39, 25 September 2023 2023-09-25T21:39:35Z <p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr style='vertical-align: top;' lang='en'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:39, 25 September 2023</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l24" >Line 24:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 24:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This would be necessary to avoid confusion in both semantics and symbolism unknown to us. For example the name of Jesus probably would not have been used by Israelites; however, if the idea of Christ was conveyed (rather than Joshua, which he would have been called), to Joseph Smith—he would know who was being mentioned in the text. Therefore it is not a letter for letter translation, rather a miraculous translation meant to not only convey the text, but more importantly the messages within it.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This would be necessary to avoid confusion in both semantics and symbolism unknown to us. For example the name of Jesus probably would not have been used by Israelites; however, if the idea of Christ was conveyed (rather than Joshua, which he would have been called), to Joseph Smith—he would know who was being mentioned in the text. Therefore it is not a letter for letter translation, rather a miraculous translation meant to not only convey the text, but more importantly the messages within it.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Further insight into the use of the Urim and Thummim was given by [[Joseph Knight Sr.]], who was present when Joseph brought the plates home. </ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; 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white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Behold, you have not understood you have supposed that I would give unto you, when you took no thought, save it was to ask me.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&lt;li&gt;</del>But, behold, I say unto you that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>But, behold, I say unto you that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; 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color:black; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:29, 25 September 2023</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3" >Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Biblical references to the Urim and Thummim describe them as part of the ceremonial temple clothing attached to a breastplate. It was handed down through the generations starting with Aaron, but the [[Bible]] does not tell of their use in as much detail as [[Mormon Scripture|Latter-day Saint scripture]]. In the book of Ether, two stones are given by the Lord for the purpose of translating the record made in an unknown language. This is the earliest mention of the Urim and Thummim chronologically, being at the time of the tower of Babel. The [[Book of Abraham]] tells of Abraham receiving a vision by means of the Urim and Thummim, although it would be a different device than the one Joseph Smith used. It is unknown whether the one used by Abraham was passed down to Aaron, but the Urim and Thummim of the [[Book of Mormon]] is the same one buried with the golden plates, which Joseph Smith used for translation. The Urim and Thummim of the Book of Mormon is again mentioned in the days of Mosiah, when he used them to translate the plates of Ether. It is here that the Urim and Thummim is defined as being &quot;interpreters.&quot; The Book of Mormon also tells that only one who is a seer is able to use the Urim and Thummim (Mosiah 8:13). [[Hiram Page]] is an example in Church history of someone attempting to use [[Seer Stones]] without the permission of the Lord ([https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/28?lang=eng Doctrine and Covenants 28:11–12]).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Biblical references to the Urim and Thummim describe them as part of the ceremonial temple clothing attached to a breastplate. It was handed down through the generations starting with Aaron, but the [[Bible]] does not tell of their use in as much detail as [[Mormon Scripture|Latter-day Saint scripture]]. In the book of Ether, two stones are given by the Lord for the purpose of translating the record made in an unknown language. This is the earliest mention of the Urim and Thummim chronologically, being at the time of the tower of Babel. The [[Book of Abraham]] tells of Abraham receiving a vision by means of the Urim and Thummim, although it would be a different device than the one Joseph Smith used. It is unknown whether the one used by Abraham was passed down to Aaron, but the Urim and Thummim of the [[Book of Mormon]] is the same one buried with the golden plates, which Joseph Smith used for translation. The Urim and Thummim of the Book of Mormon is again mentioned in the days of Mosiah, when he used them to translate the plates of Ether. It is here that the Urim and Thummim is defined as being &quot;interpreters.&quot; The Book of Mormon also tells that only one who is a seer is able to use the Urim and Thummim (Mosiah 8:13). [[Hiram Page]] is an example in Church history of someone attempting to use [[Seer Stones]] without the permission of the Lord ([https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/28?lang=eng Doctrine and Covenants 28:11–12]).</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When Joseph Smith was led to the hiding place of the golden plates by the [[Angel Moroni]], the Urim and Thummim was buried with them. Joseph described it as two stones set in a silver bow and fastened to a breastplate.&#160; In the restored gospel of Jesus Christ when the Urim and Thummim is referred to, it usually means this specific object. However, there are several references in Latter-day Saint scripture to other objects which are called an Urim and Thummim. Joseph Smith had a seer stone in addition to the device buried with the plates and used it for much of the translation of the Book of Mormon. This seer stone has also been called an Urim and Thummim in Church history. One of the revelations of Joseph Smith describes the dwelling place of God as an Urim and Thummim [https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/130?lang=eng (see Doctrine and Covenants 130:8)]. That same revelation describes the earth as becoming an Urim and Thummim to all those who live upon it when it is sanctified after the [[Last Judgment]](Doctrine and Covenants 130:9), and a white stone (Revelation 2:17) will be given to the faithful which will function as an Urim and Thummim to each individual that receives it.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When Joseph Smith was led to the hiding place of the golden plates by the [[Angel Moroni]], the Urim and Thummim was buried with them. Joseph described it as two stones set in a silver bow and fastened to a breastplate.&#160; In the restored gospel of Jesus Christ when the Urim and Thummim is referred to, it usually means this specific object. However, there are several references in Latter-day Saint scripture to other objects which are called an Urim and Thummim. Joseph Smith had a seer stone in addition to the device buried with the plates and used it for much of the translation of the Book of Mormon. This seer stone has also been called an Urim and Thummim in Church history. One of the revelations of Joseph Smith describes the dwelling place of God as an Urim and Thummim [https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/130?lang=eng (see Doctrine and Covenants 130:8)]. That same revelation describes the earth as becoming an Urim and Thummim to all those who live upon it when it is sanctified after the [[Last Judgment]] (Doctrine and Covenants 130:9), and a white stone (Revelation 2:17) will be given to the faithful which will function as an Urim and Thummim to each individual that receives it.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; 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color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This would be necessary to avoid confusion in both semantics and symbolism unknown to us. For example the name of Jesus probably would not have been used by Israelites; however, if the idea of Christ was conveyed (rather than Joshua, which he would have been called), to Joseph Smith—he would know who was being mentioned in the text. Therefore it is not a letter for letter translation, rather a miraculous translation meant to not only convey the text, but more importantly the messages within it.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This would be necessary to avoid confusion in both semantics and symbolism unknown to us. For example the name of Jesus probably would not have been used by Israelites; however, if the idea of Christ was conveyed (rather than Joshua, which he would have been called), to Joseph Smith—he would know who was being mentioned in the text. 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[[Joseph Smith]] used a Urim and Thummim to translate [[The Golden Plates<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">|the golden plates</ins>]] and receive revelations from the Lord. The term <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''</ins>Urim and Thummim<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'' </ins>does not always refer to one specific instrument, and is many times the name given to different objects, but each accomplish the same purpose. The names in Hebrew mean &quot;lights and perfections.&quot; The plural nature of both words had led some <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">biblical </ins>scholars to believe that Urim and Thummim refer to the process of divination rather than an object, but the use of the word in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the restored gospel of Jesus Christ </ins>is singular and indicates a device through which revelation is received.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Biblical references to the Urim and Thummim describe them as part of the ceremonial temple clothing attached to a breastplate. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>It was handed down through the generations starting with Aaron, but the [[Bible]] does not tell of their use in as much detail as [[Mormon Scripture]]. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>In the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Book </del>of Ether, two stones are given by the Lord for the purpose of translating the record made in an unknown language. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>This is the earliest mention of the Urim and Thummim chronologically, being at the time of the tower of Babel. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>The [[Book of Abraham]] tells of Abraham receiving a vision by means of the Urim and Thummim, although it would be a different device than the one Joseph Smith used. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>It is unknown whether the one used by Abraham was passed down to Aaron, but the Urim and Thummim of the [[Book of Mormon]] is the same one buried with <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">The Golden Plates</del>, which Joseph Smith used for translation. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>The Urim and Thummim of the Book of Mormon is again mentioned in the days of Mosiah, when he used them to translate the plates of Ether. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>It is here that the Urim and Thummim is defined as being <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'</del>interpreters.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'&#160; </del>The Book of Mormon also tells that only one who is a seer is able to use the Urim and Thummim (Mosiah 8:13). <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>Hiram Page is an example in <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Mormon History </del>of someone attempting to use [[Seer Stones]] without the permission of the Lord ([<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">http</del>://<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">scriptures</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">lds</del>.org/<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">en</del>/dc/28 <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>Doctrine and Covenants 28:<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">11-12</del>]).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Biblical references to the Urim and Thummim describe them as part of the ceremonial temple clothing attached to a breastplate. It was handed down through the generations starting with Aaron, but the [[Bible]] does not tell of their use in as much detail as [[Mormon Scripture<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">|Latter-day Saint scripture</ins>]]. In the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">book </ins>of Ether, two stones are given by the Lord for the purpose of translating the record made in an unknown language. This is the earliest mention of the Urim and Thummim chronologically, being at the time of the tower of Babel. The [[Book of Abraham]] tells of Abraham receiving a vision by means of the Urim and Thummim, although it would be a different device than the one Joseph Smith used. It is unknown whether the one used by Abraham was passed down to Aaron, but the Urim and Thummim of the [[Book of Mormon]] is the same one buried with <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the golden plates</ins>, which Joseph Smith used for translation. The Urim and Thummim of the Book of Mormon is again mentioned in the days of Mosiah, when he used them to translate the plates of Ether. It is here that the Urim and Thummim is defined as being <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&quot;</ins>interpreters.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&quot; </ins>The Book of Mormon also tells that only one who is a seer is able to use the Urim and Thummim (Mosiah 8:13). <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>Hiram Page<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]] </ins>is an example in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Church history </ins>of someone attempting to use [[Seer Stones]] without the permission of the Lord ([<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">https</ins>://<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">www</ins>.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">churchofjesuschrist</ins>.org/<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">study/scriptures/dc-testament</ins>/dc/28<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">?lang=eng </ins>Doctrine and Covenants 28:<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">11–12</ins>]).</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When Joseph Smith was led to the place of <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">The Golden Plates </del>by the [[Angel Moroni]], the Urim and Thummim was buried with them. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>Joseph described it as two stones set in a silver bow and fastened to a breastplate.&#160; In <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Mormonism </del>when the Urim and Thummim is referred to, it usually means this specific object. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>However, there are several references in <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Mormon Scripture </del>to other objects which are called an Urim and Thummim. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>Joseph Smith had a seer stone in addition to the device buried with the plates and used it for much of the translation of the Book of Mormon. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>This seer stone has also been called an Urim and Thummim in <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[Mormon History]]</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>One of the revelations of Joseph Smith describes the dwelling place of God as an Urim and Thummim. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>That same revelation describes the earth as becoming an Urim and Thummim to all those who live upon it when it is sanctified after the [[Last Judgment]], and a white stone (Revelation 2:17) will be given to the faithful which will function as an Urim and Thummim to each individual that receives it.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When Joseph Smith was led to the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">hiding </ins>place of <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the golden plates </ins>by the [[Angel Moroni]], the Urim and Thummim was buried with them. Joseph described it as two stones set in a silver bow and fastened to a breastplate.&#160; In <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the restored gospel of Jesus Christ </ins>when the Urim and Thummim is referred to, it usually means this specific object. However, there are several references in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Latter-day Saint scripture </ins>to other objects which are called an Urim and Thummim. Joseph Smith had a seer stone in addition to the device buried with the plates and used it for much of the translation of the Book of Mormon. This seer stone has also been called an Urim and Thummim in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Church history</ins>. One of the revelations of Joseph Smith describes the dwelling place of God as an Urim and Thummim <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/130?lang=eng (see Doctrine and Covenants 130:8)]</ins>. That same revelation describes the earth as becoming an Urim and Thummim to all those who live upon it when it is sanctified after the [[Last Judgment]]<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">(Doctrine and Covenants 130:9)</ins>, and a white stone (Revelation 2:17) will be given to the faithful which will function as an Urim and Thummim to each individual that receives it.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; 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font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>According to the Jewish traditional definition of the Urim and Thummim, one of the stones conveyed the translation of the foreign word and the other stone, its meaning.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; 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